2004-02-27 |
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Consolidating this week's flurry of discussion about the shape of a new CMF release.
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Moglen said:
[McBride and Gates] see software as a product. In order
to make their quote "business model" close quote work, software must
be a thing which is scarce. And out of the scarcity of software there
will be a price which can be extracted, which will include an economic
rent, from which Mr. McBride has suggested somebody will be enabled to
buy a second home.
and later:
We think that software is not a product, because we do not believe in
excluding people from it. We think that software is a form of
knowledge. The International Business Machines Corporation, the
Hewlett Packard Corporation, and a number of other organizations
either represented here in body or in spirit this evening have another
theory, which is that software in the 21st century is a service, a
form of public utility combined with knowledge about how to make best
use of the utility, which enables economic growth in peoples'
enterprises generally, from which there is a surplus to be used to pay
the people who help you produce the surplus, by making the best
possible use of the public utility.
Zope straddles Mogen's two "good guy" alternatives (free knowledge and service), and enables the creation of "scarcity"-based products, which is a source of not a little stress in its ecosphere.
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2004-02-25 |
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OpenPKG is a meta-distribution, desinged to allow
sysadmins to package software for deployment in
controlled envrionments on a large number of host
operating systems:
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posted at 16:02:56
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Lots of really fine churn here, including a high
energy discussion about how / whether to add
Archetypes and its supporting infrastructure.
One counter-proposal is to find a way to merge / integrate Nuxeo's CPSSchemas, although I am beginning to think such an effort might be out of scope for a 1.5 release.
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Source:
ZopeZen
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posted at 15:26:40
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2004-02-24 |
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Kudos to Seb Bacon's Jamkit , and to Chris McDonough, who consulted to Jamkit for this
deployment.
Interesting to see this on a Java-focused site:
Online travel company Lastminute .com is using
new open-source technology to rebuild the
front-end architecture of its Web site, as part
of a major site overhaul that will begin in the
spring.
Web services firm Jamkit has been advising
Lastminute on the new open-source Web server
ZOPE, which provides a toolkit for content
management. The system is written in Python,
which Jamkit called an "up and coming"
programming language to rival Java.
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posted at 14:09:52
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Issues with packaging Zope 2 |
Zope has always been an odd beast to package. It uses and depends on Python, and includes a large number of Python packages / modules / extensions, but is not properly any one of those three: it is an application.
Worse, Zope-the-application, like PostgreSQL, runs server instances; each instance on a machine has its own configuration / database setup.
Here are a couple of desiderata for any scheme for packaging Zope:
- platform neutrality
the solution should make generating Debian,
RPM, etc. packages simple, without requiring any
one of them; it should also be trivial to
generate Windows installers, as well as source
distributions. distutils makes a partial start
at this goal, which is a big plus for finding a
way to reuse it.
- data with code
Zope makes heavy use of the technique of
packaging application data (icons, templates,
help files, etc.) with the Python code which
uses them; that code then introspects __file__,
etc. to find the files. distutils' support for
bundling data is primitive, at best.
- only explicit sharing
don't assume that every other user on the
system wants / needs the component to be
packaged; rather, make it possible to share,
but not mandatory. distutils assumes sharing
by default (it wants to pollute site-packages),
and requires ill-documented workarounds to
disable that.
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Notes from a Zope addict.
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